Diablo 2 Magic Find Shield
- #1
Best MF shield?
I am trying to figure out what is the all-time shield for a pure MF sorceress. I take not put whatsoever stat points into her dexterity, and she has a base defense of 2,535 and a maximum defense force of thirteen,652. Assuming that this sorceress is using no other modded gear whatsoever, choose the optimal shield for her to apply (I use her to MF any and all monsters available in Hell mode during total games):
fifteen% Enhanced Defense 4 Ist Monarch (171 defense instead of the regular 148)/
4 Ist Jeweler'southward Monarch of Equilibrium (17% Faster Hit Recovery)/
four Ist Jeweler's Monarch of Blocking (20% Increased Blocking, thirty% Faster Block Rate)/
four Ist Jeweler's Monarch of Defiance (75% Reduction in Poison Length)/
4 Ist Jeweler'southward Monarch of Colossus (+sixty Life, which becomes +120 after BO)/
4 Ist Jeweler's Ward of Simplicity (170 Defence force, 44% Chance to Cake instead of the regular 42%)
I realize that all of these shields are extremely rare, but I'd still similar to know whether something better could possibly be out there (she currently uses the 15%ED Monarch, by the way). Thanks again for your participation.
- #2
from
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/magic/magicfind.shtml
Shield (100%)
4 Socket Shield with 4 Ist Runes (100%, very hard to do)
or three Socket Shield with three Ist Runes (75%, very hard to do)
or 3 or 4 Socket Shield with three-four Jewels of 5-17% Magic Observe (xv-68%)
or Milabrega's Orb socketed with a Ist Rune (45%)
or Rhyme Rune Word Shield (25%)
easiest would be a mila with an ist
merely killing speed is more important than mf imo
- #3
but killing speed is more important than mf imo
You don't kill the monster with the MF shield, yous put information technology on switch, and switch weapon and shield at the very terminal moment, so killing speed doesn't thing
Or do we understand eachother wrong? :laugh:
- #4
on a sorc if you use a spirit mon the +two skills would probably do more good than the mf
edit: im not sure if the mf is used on cast or when it dies
- #five
We are assuming here that +100% Magic Find is necessary. I don't care about switching shields or killing charge per unit or anything like that, I'm simply trying to discern the best iv Ist shield bachelor in the game to a pure magic observe sorceress.
- #vi
I'd say 4 Ist Jeweler'due south Monarch with Life or FHR/Deflecting
- #7
Don't forget isted Moser'south. l mf +25res, blocking and pretty sexy defense if you up it.
By and large, if your going to employ a six isted crystal and a 4 isted shield, you have them on switch for terminal hitting switching, making mods on the shield almost entirely useless.
Besides, an mfer past nature, is intended to help build wealth, not to be a sinkhole for it. In my stance, spending high amounts on a build that tin easily be built plenty effective for trivial more than than pgems is decadence to an asinine level, merely that'due south merely me.
To interruption downwardly all those shields...
Jeweler'south Monarch of Equilibrium - This is ok if information technology gets you to a better breakpoint because the residual of your gear(whatever that is). Otherwise, quite useless.
Jeweler's Monarch of Blocking - You have nix in dex, your block is going to be total crap either way. Y'all'd be lucky to get up to 1/3 chance to cake fifty-fifty with this bonus.
Jeweler'due south Monarch of Disobedience - Poison is and then rarely potent enough to be an event. This power would exist wasted 99% pct of the fourth dimension.
Jeweler's Monarch of Colossus- This is probably the best selection out of the listed ones. Life bonuses, even small, are effective in every situation, and red is pretty sexy.
I'm very curious almost the rest of your gear.
- #8
I really am only interested in shields that have +100% MF for my purposes. Moser's Round and other fine MF shield options are simply exterior the scope of this chat.
Switching is pointless since random monsters tend to drop valuable items nearly as frequently as the bosses do. Furthermore switching isn't easy, I practice it a lot because my sorceress uses War Cry often, and pressing Westward isn't as fast and responsive as I need it to be. My sorceress' mercenary scores kills oftentimes enough likewise. I also savor slumming sometimes and most always stop to impale unique monsters.
Where tin I find FHR breakpoints? My sorceress does non have any FHR so the first breakpoint is probably low, merely if it is higher up 17% and so this shield would be useless.
My sorceress has dexterity boosts from the Hellfire Torch and Annihulius charms she carries however. She is congenital according to the Blizzard guide for maximum MF and uses perfect or near-perfect items of this sort. Without her body she still has approximately 300 MF, +75 all resistances, +40 stats, and +60 mana from her charms. She doen't oftentimes have issues killing monsters in a timely fashion. As I mentioned earlier, I seek out full games and I run everyone with her.
- #10
Am I the only one who thinks it would be a complete sin to use a JMoD on a MF sorc?
Anyone?
Really, by the fourth dimension yous get half those shields, you wont fifty-fifty need to MF anymore. The worth of a single JMoD can dwarf entire accounts.
- #xi
it is an utter sin to employ 4 ist on a jmod, you are destroying the value of both.
a spirit monarch is infinately cheaper and increases res/skill/FHR/fcr all vital to killing.
i know information technology might seem like having 100-200 mf more later 300 sounds tempting but really it is pointless unless you lot are already so rich you tin can blow ists like that, at which point you probly dont need to mf anymore.
a cheapo tal sorc can practice almost jobs every bit well as an uberized [basicly pvp blizz sorc with some mf slapped on] blizz sorc an.
if none of that matters id go with 4sock narc with threescore life. since you arent cake based anyways. of grade the wealth required to buy information technology will likely be more than what it will mf for you for many weeks if ever.
- #12
Don't try to brand the MF argument hither, I already stated that I simply practise not care near items that don't have the maximum possible MF on them. Y'all tin can brand your own thread and tell me all near how l less MF won't make any difference or how Moser's round is a good shield, blah, blah, apathetic... not here though.
Y'all did bring up a very practiced point nonetheless, I can instead unsocket one of those lovely JMO shields. Which ones are available on the market these days? Exercise people really have JMOCs for auction? JMOS?
Davidskp: Yep, a JMOS would have been optimal but unfortunately I didn't think of it when I was building my sorceress (nor could I beget it back and then). A JMOC would outcome in lx less life after BO, correct now information technology seems to be the all-time pick. However, since nobody has JMOCs or JMOSs, I think looking for a JMOD might exist the style to go since I have actually seen people with them before. I doubt that the other 2 fifty-fifty exist on Diablo anywhere other than in Charsi's warehouse.
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- #14
it depends on your realm lad/nonlad simply the only place you can really get them is ebay/itemshopsonline/ or d2jsp. all of which are unpleasant.
- #xv
Or gratuitous amounts of gambling. Throw together an Border bow with a -15% vendor Gheeds and get to work. A Gilded Discover grapheme might aid as well.
- #sixteen
I constitute someone selling a JMOE (the breakpoints for FHR on a sorceress are five, 9, and 14%, by the way), and I have seen JMODs around. Merely wondering if information technology is reasonable to search for whatsoever of the other shields as well. I don't pay cash for items and D2JSP is indeed unpleasant.
- #17
i forgot how much jmoe adds to fhr but i dont think its significant. you should aim for as much fhr frames as you want seeing equally you will be spending alot on mf/items and dont desire to get locked and dice. at leas 60fhr if not 86fhr for 7frames imo. hands attainable from charms and or gear, (i accept no thought waht the balance of your gear is).
i still suggest the 60life option.
jmod if you are max block(alot more surviability).
- #18
My sorceress has 65 dexterity. 17% FHR would cut the recovery frames from xv to 12. On 2nd thought, a JMOS would be useless because my sorceress needed the strength stats in order to use her armor. A JMOC is indeed optimal, but finding one would be as well difficult. The immediate question is now this (though 148 defense, +sixty life JMOC is my goal);
171 defense, 15/15 superior Monarch versus
141 defense 17% FHR JMOE
Which would be improve?
- #19
The FHR one. The little fleck of actress defence force on the superior one is useless for a sorc.
- #twenty
If you like to tele around to become to bosses speedily, you would probably be better off with more fhr since yous will not exist getting any from your charms. If instead yous like to stay behind your merc and kill everything in your path, become with the xv/15 monarch and hope yous mf enough to trade for (or even find) a JMoC.
Source: https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/best-mf-shield.621148/
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